24
Apr

podrant

   Posted by: Greg Schwartz   in Podcasting

It’s been a while since I’ve had the opportunity to rant about the misuse of the term podcast. But I’ve got a good one and can’t seem to help myself. I suppose I’m something of a podcast bigot when it comes to my staunch defense of what makes a podcast a podcast.

What makes this rant particularly special is its basis on a piece that appears in the April 2008 issue of Computers in Libraries magazine. This issue contains an article entitled “Creating Communities With Podcasting” by Angela L. Jowitt, who is at the library of the Universal College of Learning in New Zealand.

The article starts innocently enough with a basic description of how the author came upon podcasting and how it fit into the overall 2.0 mentality that the library was trying to embrace. She then moves on to discuss recording and publishing “podcast files” on a trial basis. The use of the phrase “podcast files” should have been a red flag, but I read on blindly.

Here’s where I gasped openly: “As we were making the files available simultaneously, a Really Simple Syndication (RSS) feed was not initially set up.

Come again? We’re podcasting without an RSS feed? I was so stunned by this unexpected twist in the article, I didn’t actually read the following sentences. We’ll come back to those.

Instead, my eyes were drawn to a small screenshot of the “podcast” page on the website. The lead sentence reads “Podcasts are digital audio recordings made available over the internet.” I’m hoping that the audience of this blog does not need me to identify the shortcomings of this statement. Suffice it to say that making a digital audio recording and sticking it online does not a podcast make. Wanna read more about that? Check here or, better yet, here. Or the latter part of this post. And then of course, there’s the whole ALA 2.0 Bootcamp mess. I’ve been beating this drum since March of 2005.

There was a glimmer of hope as I returned to the article where I left off:

As we were making the files available simultaneously, a Really Simple Syndication (RSS) feed was not initially set up. However, we are now working on this in order to turn our digital audio files into true podcasts, which are files broadcast or published over the internet. This will also make our podcasts available for subscription using a podcatcher, which is an RSS aggregator.

Sigh. I enjoy the distinction made between podcasts and true podcasts. Why not entitle the article “Creating Communities with Something Like Podcasting but not True Podcasting”* or somesuch? But anyway, I was given some glimmer of hope that a “true podcast” would emerge from this initiative, even if it didn’t in the article.

Before I go on with my rant, I want to make sure you understand that the approach that UCOL is taking in their podcasting initiative, as far as starting modestly and soliciting feedback, is great. And the content, although I haven’t listened to it, appears relevant and worthy of production. I’m not intending to condemn their efforts here.

The real reason this irks me so much is not because this group of librarians doesn’t quite get it. It’s because a major library magazine devoted to technology initiatives in libraries fails to see the problem and thus disseminates piss-poor information throughout the library community. A magazine that lends its name to a conference where I’ve presented on podcasting multiple times. How does this happen and what can I do to prevent it from happening again? Your feedback is welcome.

And again, I don’t want to overstate my issues with the article on the whole. There’s a lot of good information about recording library content for distribution online from a beginner’s perspective. But the fundamental misunderstanding of what RSS brings to that distribution effort makes me shudder.

So, as I said before, I had a glimmer of hope that there would be a podcast in the end. So I visited the library podcast page pictured in the article. Sure enough, there’s a nice prominent RSS symbol on the site, leading to an RSS feed. Great!

Good news is that the feed works and, in the end, UCOL is in fact providing a “true podcast.” They haven’t updated it since January, which is a strange thing to do if you know that an article about you is going to appear in a widely distributed magazine in April, but hey, that’s not my call.

Bad news is that there’s no explanation on the page of the role of this RSS feed or anything about subscribing to it. So in the end, they really aren’t doing anything to highlight the very thing that allows them to properly call it a podcast. And thus, the diffusion of confusion continues.

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* It’s also worth noting that the article in no way, that I can see, discusses the building of a community through podcasting.

Update: My good friend Dgold notes in the comments that it is inaccurate to limit the definition of podcasting to content syndicated via RSS. He highlights ATOM as another specification that allows for syndication of media content. In this regard, he is absolutely correct and I thank him for pointing this out. I tend to use RSS as a euphemism for all syndication formats, but that’s kind of like referring to all online audio files as podcasts, isn’t it? Check the rest of the comments to follow the discussion.

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12 comments so far

 1 

Keep the faith, brother. I’m with you.

April 25th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Greg
 2 

I’m tryin’, Jason. Really tryin’. At least it gives me something to write about, eh?

April 25th, 2008 at 7:49 am
 3 

Hey, we could start a “That’s not a podcast, damn it” blog and post a new site every day.

April 25th, 2008 at 10:52 am
 4 

I think the real problem is that we don’t have a word for a downloadable audio recording that is not a podcast. There are many such things (and many of them are good and worthwhile), but what do we call them? For lack of a better word, I think people call them podcasts.

April 25th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Greg
 5 

Jason, I’m trying to maintain my sanity here. Keep my blood pressure in check and such.

Laura, I hear what you’re saying, but we had downloadable audio files well before syndication of such. You know what we called them then: downloadable audio files. Sure, not as catchy, but at least it was accurate.

The problem for me is that people (and in particular, librarians) are trying to hop on the buzz-train, but they don’t understand where the train is going. At least, this group knew what the “true podcast” train looked like.

April 25th, 2008 at 11:05 am
 6 

Right, Greg — I really only gripe about it and annoy my co-workers so much because I don’t want librarians to come off looking like we think the interweb is a series of tubes.

April 25th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Dgold
 7 

The sentence “podcasts are digital audio recordings made available over the internet” is true. I prefer the flexible definition. It’s seems awefully limiting to define podcasting in terms of RSS, which is simply one syndication standard. If you wanted to emphasize syndication, that would be one possible aspect (I would say it’s not required) but certainly RSS specifically is not required. One could syndicate using Atom feeds, for example. One could also offer a podcast which is not licensed for syndication — it’s the creator’s choice.

April 25th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Greg
 8 

Hey D, nice to see you commenting over here!

I’m gonna agree with you and disagree with you. There’s a surprise, right?

I’m gonna stick to my guns that an unsyndicated podcast is not a podcast. Not that this is a particularly good source to cite, but Wikipedia will back me up on that assertion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podcasting

But I’ll definitely take your point that I’m using RSS to encompass a variety of specifications, including ATOM, but that it’s not really accurate to do so, since ATOM really is a different spec altogether. So thanks for pointing that out. Think I might update the post to make note of that.

April 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Angela Jowitt
 9 

Hello Greg and those of you who have commented on this post.

Firstly, let me say I’m glad I have started a debate over my article as this at least gets people talking about podcasts and podcasting and thinking about how they might use them especially in libraries! That was the whole point of the research I was undertaking.

Speaking of which, I would like to point out that the article is based on research I was doing towards my Masters in Library and Information studies. For the purposes of my research I was not required to set up an RSS feed for my “Digital Audio Recordings”. My supervisor felt there was enough work involved in collating responses to the survey on the usage of the files and gathering feedback on useful topics libraries could cover. I am well aware this does not make our recordings true “Podcasts” which is why I carried on and ensured an RSS feed was set up after my research was finished. I am glad, Greg, that you did read and look further to discover our podcasts are in fact true podcasts now. But as you say at least it gives you something to rant about on your blog right?!! I would like to call you to question on your comment “this group of librarians doesn’t quite get it”. I believe I very well “get it”. During my research I discovered a lot of people had no idea of what a podcast was and so I was trying to explain it as simply as possible without losing them on grand explanations of RSS feeds and feed readers etc. I have found many people don’t know or even want to know about the technology behind how these things work - they just want them to work!! I do apologise if the explanation on our web site is not thorough enough for experts such as yourself, oh and thank you Dgold for backing my simple explanation.

I also note your next comment is how the 5 initial “Podcasts” have not been added to since the beginning of the year. This could be perhaps because I am no longer working at UCOL and obviously no one else there has the same passion for Podcasting as I did. Not a lot I can do about this I’m afraid! I do however hope that the podcasts that were made will continue to assist the current UCOL students and that in time someone will pick up this project and add to it.

I would like to put in a vote for the Computers in Libraries magazine. I personally find it a useful publication (which is why I wanted to write something for it!) It is not a peer reviewed publication therefore you cannot expect them to scrutinize everything they publish. In fact I was asked to produce a practice based article for the beginner so I’m glad you did find it useful from that point of view. The title of the article was not the one provided by me, perhaps the journal publishers felt this one about building communities would be catchy? I don’t know. The first time I saw it was when it came out in print and I received copies in my mail box. A bit late for me to correct things then I’m sure you will agree?

Anyway thanks for the chance to answer your “rant”. I’m not sure you actually have the right to “rant” that our podcasts are not podcasts considering during your “rant” you actually go on to discover that they are - but there you go!! Free speech and all that.

Go forth and create library podcasts (the real sort) and I’ll be happy - that’s all I was trying to achieve!

Angela

July 30th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Greg Schwartz
 10 

Hi Angela,

Thanks for your response. I believe that you “get it.” But I think you were wrong to suggest that there are podcasts and “true podcasts.” That, in my mind, is a false distinction and bad information. My good friend Dgold is similarly wrong. Again, even Wikipedia will back me up on that.

As far as CiL is concerned: No, they do not get a pass. Sorry. Peer-reviewed or not, they are an influential magazine in our sphere and I’m gonna call them out when I think they’re publishing bad information. And, in this case, I most fervently do.

That said, it was a good article with much to suggest it. I said as much above. Understand that I’ve been banging this drum for years now. This is but one podrant amongst many.

Thanks again for your response. I’m disappointed that the UCOL project appears to have died with your departure.

July 30th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
rodzvilla
 11 

Greg,

I know where you’re coming from in your need to defend the integrity of the term “podcast.” It’s good someone is still banging that drum as I’m resigned to accept that “podcast” will become a generic term as online audio becomes something that more and more people will use.

Reading your rant reminded me of the discussions that were going on in 2001-2002 about blogs vs. online journals and, well, as far as I’m concerned we lost that battle. (Well I was still trying to correct people as late as 2005, but I just got strange looks when I corrected people that livejournal hosted online journals not blogs so I gave up.)

For the non-techies and technophones “blogs” and “podcasts” are just so much catchier and nicer sounding than “online journals” and “downloadable audio files” so people will use them in much the same way Coke means soda.*

I’m not saying it’s right, but as the media continues to use these terms interchangeably we lose the fight for linguistic purity. I’m glad to have caught this discussion between you and Angela.

*I’ve had students in my classes fervently argue (a la Leo Laporte) that even our current use of “podcast” is wrong as it implies that the file should only be played on an I-Pod device. While such adherence to the origins of the term was noted in their grades, it does point out that we’re already on a slippery slope with the term.

July 31st, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Greg Schwartz
 12 

Thanks, John. I recognize that I’m fighting a losing battle, but it just seems wrong to completely drain a term of the special circumstances that brought it into existence in the first place. The reason we even needed the term podcasting was to offer a catchier expression than “enclosing media files in RSS feeds.”

July 31st, 2008 at 3:48 pm

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